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  Discovery channel's big JW show!

  by Dan B in

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  i just finished watching a show on discovery health channel called blood-cure or killer.

  it was a history of blood transfusions, and where that area of medicine is heading in the future.

  the first mention of the jw's involved an interview with a bearded man (?

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  Dan B

  Hi Hawk,

  "This is absolutely not true. What made "blood conservation therapy" go forward were the screening problems of the 1970s and 1980s and the lack of donated blood in the system. Also some treatments (such as certain colon cancers but not breast cancer) showed a higher rate of reoccurrence if one was given blood. Thus, some operations tried to perfect a "blood conservation technique"."

  Notice that I qualified my statement by stating that it "seems" that JW persistance in refusing blood has actually had some benefits which could help others. This statement was based soley on what was presented on that Discovery channel show. I'm not disagreeing with you in the least, you seem well informed on this subject, compared to my comments based on one show.

  By the way, excellent work on the UN issue!!

  Dan
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  Remember hiding out

  by Parliament in

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  remember having hide in the basement or the back room of your house so as the trick or treaters thought you weren't home!!!

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  gotta run the door bells ringing.

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  I told my wife how my mother used to make us hide in the basement during Halloween, and she almost busted a gut laughing!! I find it amusing that we weren't the only ones. I remember as a kid trying to sneek a peek out a window to see what was going on. My parents almost had a heart attack! In retrospect it reminds me of the scene in "The Ten Commandments" when the 10th plague was being brought upon Egypt's firstborn. Remember that scene? The green mist was going through the streets and the people were in their house ignoring the screams (or "trick-or-treats")from outside.

  Fond memories...

  Dan
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  British JWs ignoring the GB.

  by dmouse in

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  when we have american jw relatives visit they are frequently shocked at the difference between how they live their lives and how jws over here live.

  its almost as if we are from two different religions.. that divide seems to be getting wider.

  i have noticed in the past two or three years a noticeable relaxation among british jws.

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  I've heard the same thing about the rural Quebec congregations. I've heard that brothers show up at meetings to give talks in T shirts, and that the meetings are not taken seriously at all. I don't know if this is true or not. If anybody here is from Quebec, maybe you can shed some light on this rumor.

  Dan
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  Are you afraid?

  by YoYoMama in

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  are you afraid of death?

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  "I am a JW and I have very meaningful life"

  How one defines a meaningful life is very subjective, sort of like happiness or contentment. What may be meaningful to one person, may be a complete utter waste of time to another. I don't think any of us can really comment on another's consideration of what is meaningful.

  Dan
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  Any ex-district overseers here?

  by YoYoMama in

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  i would like to know if any of you were ex-district overseers or other "heavy" men in the organization and what made you leave?

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  "I would like to know if any of you were ex-district overseers or other "heavy" men in the organization and what made you leave?"

  I was about 15lbs overweight when I was a JW. Does that count?

  Dan
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  Discovery channel's big JW show!

  by Dan B in

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  i just finished watching a show on discovery health channel called blood-cure or killer.

  it was a history of blood transfusions, and where that area of medicine is heading in the future.

  the first mention of the jw's involved an interview with a bearded man (?

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  Hi Ashi,

  "Blood or no blood, if the doctor says I truly need it, I'm going to get it."

  That was pretty much the conclusion of the show. If you are dying from blood loss, it's not really that important at the time whether you may get sick from it down the road. They featured a guy from England who was hit by a truck while riding his bicycle. They had to pump gallons of blood into him, but they did keep him alive. Apparently he set the world record for the amount of blood required to save him.

  I do agree with you, if blood is necessary, than that's what must be done. Bloodless surgery is a nice option, but not necessarily practical.

  Dan

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  ANTHEM

  by nicolaou in

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  shouldn't all of us ex-dubs, lurkers and nominal jw's have an anthem?.

  a few suggestions for starters:.

  i will survive.

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  Dan B

  Another one from Rush.

  Heresy is a song about the end of the cold war, but has some lines that seem appropriate to how I, personally, feel about my 30 years as a JW:

  The counter-revolution
  People smiling through their tears
  Who can give them back their lives
  and all those wasted years?
  All those precious wasted years-
  Who will pay?

  Do we have to be forgiving at last?
  What else can we do?
  Do we have to say goodbye to the past?
  Yes, I guess we do.

  The bloody revolution
  All the warheads in it's wake
  All the fear and suffering-
  All a big mistake
  All those wasted years
  All those precious wasted years
  Who will pay?

  Dan
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  Discovery channel's big JW show!

  by Dan B in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just finished watching a show on discovery health channel called blood-cure or killer.

  it was a history of blood transfusions, and where that area of medicine is heading in the future.

  the first mention of the jw's involved an interview with a bearded man (?

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  Dan B

  I just finished watching a show on Discovery Health channel called Blood-Cure or Killer. It was a history of blood transfusions, and where that area of medicine is heading in the future. The first mention of the JW's involved an interview with a bearded man (?) who was identified as a JW. He claimed that the reason the JWs don't accept blood is because a person's personality is in the blood and God doesn't want personalities mixed together. I don't know what the hell he was talking about. He made the JWs look like a bunch of morons. Further in the program they interviewed him again and he pointed to the "fact" that more and more people are getting diseases from blood transfusions than ever before. The show then proceeded to show how the blood supply is the safest it's ever been due to enhanced testing procedures, and how it's only going to get better.

  They also briefly interviewed a woman named Pamela who identified herself as a JW and stated that she refuses blood because Jehovah views it as sacred, so she does too. They then proceeded to show her open heart bloodless surgery. They really hyped bloodless surgery as a better way to go, for surgery, but not practical for accident victims. It seems that JW persistance in refusing blood has actually had some benefits which could help others. Personally, if I needed an operation, bloodless surgery would be a first choice, but definitely not worth risking my life over.

  The final conclusion of the show was that blood, whether cure or killer is necessary in medicine. I don't know where they found the guy with the beard to interview, but he sure didn't help out the JW cause!

  Dan
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  How the WTS Grows RICH!!!

  by Amazing in

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  how the wts grows rich!!!

  principle loan: $200,000 to congregation buy land and build hall.. interest rate: 3%.

  loan term: 30 years.. the total paid back over 30 year: $303,555.

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  Hi Radar,

  You forgot one part of the equation. The money that the WT society loans out to the local congregations come from the Kingdom Hall building fund. This is a contribution from each congregation. So this is how I see it going down:

  1) Local congregations donate money into this fund.
  2) The WT loans this money and charges interest.
  3) The building is built with free volunteer labour.
  4) The local congregation pays back the loan and interest
  5) The local congregation sells their old hall and forwards the proceeds to the WT
  6) The WT owns the property, and receives interest on the funds which these same people had a part in contributing.

  If I did this, I would go to prison!

  Dan
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  What other religions etc. do you have?

  by abcde in

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  if jehovahs witnesses have problems,then is there anything better you have too offer?.

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  i would be happy too know of a religion,website or something else that helps you in your life.

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  Dan B

  Hey yoyo,

  It's been a couple of hours. Have you found those scriptures where Jesus clearly and conclusively stated that he would have an organized religion? Not yet? Keep looking, I'm sure it's there somewhere.

  Dan